[Sue Johnson]

It is the 23rd of the month, and here I am – again – so predictable, asking for your help! February 23, 2023 is 6 months from today.

Current and former members – get involved and help us capture the spirit of our celebration –– we can’t do this without your contributions!!!

Set the mood for others and publish your own STORIES on the forum.

We need your films and soft copies of photos to create A FILM PRESENTATION! Contact webmanager2@skabc.org, who will tell you how to get your digital pieces into our google folder. We are looking for photos of people (not simply scenery), maybe someone building a Greenland paddle or or or. It would be helpful if you include the year, location, and brief description of each.

Contact social2@skabc.org and arrange to deliver HARD COPIES OF PHOTOS – these will be assembled and displayed on memory boards at our 2023 in-person celebration.

Thank you to those who have contributed. Our team has some items, but we need (far) more!

[Heather Kirk]

Nimbus Solander kayak – $3500

Fiberglass laminate, with safety Yellow deck, White hull and Roberts Grey seamline and hatch rims. In excellent condition (stored covered inside car port).

According to Rainforest Designs Ltd feedback “A fibreglass Solander in 2022  cost about $4650. I can’t tell you how much a new fibreglass Solander would be next season. Our kayaks do seem to hold their original sales price quite well”.

In addition, willing to include a paddle made by Wave, Wheeleez boat wheels, bilge pump and paddle float if I haven’t already sold them.

please contact Anna: annabengall@gmail.com or text 778-868-2078

[Former Member]

No registration — first come first served

[Nick Heath]

Yes, Danielle, it is reservation-free and fee-free!

I was there yesterday – lovely.

5 paddlers from the Sunshine Coast camped on Sun night but none on Mon night. Lots of room both below in the main area and up higher i.e. nearer to the toilet.

Be aware that boat stowage is easier at the creek mouth, just to the N of the signed landing.

Some silly person put a fire pit in the main forested area on duff. If you have time/inclination maybe dismantle it? Admittedly, there is hardly an evening beach area for a fire at some times of year, but right now there’s a fire ban anyhow.

Lots of site info on the BC Marine Trails map for you to peruse and plan your trips.

Enjoy!

/nick

[Former Member]

Hi there,

I’m looking to stay at Ramillies Channel Marine Site (Gambier Island), and am looking for the following guidance: –

Does anyone know if this site is first come first serve?

– Is a registration or reservation require? If so, through whom do I do this?

Thank you very much in advance for your help!

Danielle

[Lorraine Sharpsteen]

I recently parked my car in the lot for a weekend but didn’t find a place to pay the $10/day (weekends from Friday noon) fee/donation. I also haven’t found any mention of the lot on the Ambleside Tiddlycove Lions Club website.

Has anyone any current information on how to pay or who to contact?

[Johan Worst]

Offhand I’d advise – no. It’s to your advantage to keep the boat as light as possible since wind and the motion of the car can result in the damaging forces that Vincent mentioned. Anything in the kayak that’s free to move will move in the opposite direction of motion so if you have to brake in an emergency, that lose, sharp paddle in the cockpit will move toward the bulkhead at a high rate of speed. The most precarious days of your boat are the days it’s on top of the car. If you’re travelling at 80 kms/hr on a two lane road and you meet a semi on the other side moving at 90 kms/hr, your boat experiences winds of about 170 kms/hr. Even if it’s only for a short time it’s still a significant force. Better to have the boat as light as possible and tied in four places. Bow and Stern lines and a good strap at each roof rack. As Nick mentioned, put a good cockpit cover on while it’s up on the car. It makes the boat more aerodynamic, saving you some gas and it keeps any water out which can become a wave sloshing from bulkhead to bulkhead as we brake and accelerate.

[Karin Hartner]

I can bring a tarp and a couple of poles if necessary.

Let me know

 

Karin

[Nick Heath]

If items are light and soft I don’t see much harm but I’d prefer to use the cockpit rather than the end hatches and to secure (tie in with cord) any light but hard items, like paddles.  Many people seem to overload clamp-on racks and SUV manufacturers’ flimsy racks – check your rack’s rating and think about what will happen if you are in a serious collision. Flying roof loads have been known to cause fatalities and serious injuries when the collision itself would have otherwise resulted in no injuries at all.

As Mick says, do something to keep out rain from the cockpit – (not to keep your seat dry – as was once suggested to me!) – but to prevent several kgs of water from accumulating and sloshing about, possibly causing a dangerous stability or overload problem. This is one reason for preferring J bars or carrying the boat inverted (like all canoeists!)

There are serious safety issues with roof loads on closely-spaced passenger vehicle racks. Strong end ties are essential, mounted to a solid part of the vehicle, not to the rack, (which have been known to break or come loose) but on some vehicles it is hard to find anything that I’d trust as solid!

[Admin S. Jensen]

Hi, I’ve heard that long-time club president Mercia Sixta may know about the videos. I’ve spoken to her on the phone before but don’t know her personally. Does anyone keep in touch with her to ask?

Susan Jensen

[Mick Allen]

Stern and especially bow lines are required – so no cantilevering, and rack stresses by side wind loads are minimized by being taken by the end lines.  Boat is carried right side up [it’s rockered curvaceous shape is supported adequately by the rack spacing – think of the diffential loading in abrupt changing conditions on and in waves when we’re paddling!]. As Peter mentions,  main heavy loading is in the centre with the sprayskirt attached and the waist opening tied off and inverted [or a ckpt cover if present] to eliminate rain ingress at speed and use the end compartments for the light items like clothing, tents etc.

For the end ties if possible, use a triangulated approach from ea side of the bumper [frame tabs or whatever is used] so that end  movement is minimized [and thereby minimal unwanted twist stress to the racks].

. . . I never could see the point of those roof top carriers when we’ve got a much more voluminous and especially doubly useful method – and they look meaningful and cut the wind so much better. Or if a seakayak is too big, just pick up one of the many short 2nd hand WW boats that appear on craigslist once in awhile.

[And joking must be inserted: because of the yak’s hydrodynamic shape, at high rates of speed it will actually fly a little bit thereby reducing much of that rack loading, heh heh.]

 

 

 

[Vincent Law]

The racks are typically spaced 3 feet apart which is too close together for objects that are 16’-18’ long. (3 foot spacing is ideal for bike rack and mounting skis.) Also, Kayaks have a big surface area which can pick up a lot of wind loads that will be transferred directly to the rack. The long overhang at both ends of the rack can result in cantilevered forces that can readily overload the racks, even if it’s just for a split second.

I would suggest making the kayaks as light as feasible. I.e. store as little as possible in the compartments. If you have to store items in the compartments then put them in the cockpit as suggested above.

[Mick Allen]

Kayaks are just dual purpose roof-top carriers!

[Peter Kearney]

Hi Tyronne,

Light, bulky stuff is fine in the hatches. If heavier then better in the cockpit with a secure cover over it. Weight of all the kayaks and gear should not exceed the load rating of your car/ roof rack system. Take apart paddles can also go in the cockpit. Cheers, Peter

 

 

[Tyronne L’Hirondelle]

is it okay to put gear in your hatches when you are transporting a kayak on your car?  I’m thinking I can save truck space by carrying light and soft gear, (spray skirts, lifejackets, wetsuits) in the hatches while the kayaks are on the roof rack. any thoughts?

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